5th generation leadership by Grant Smith

Last Updated: October 23, 2025
Spiritual and cultural considerations have always been integral to leadership. In recent years the way these conditions manifest with modern information technology has only complicated an already esoteric and indescribable features of our shared reality. To navigate these turbulent waters we'll need a new generation of leaders willing to engage in the hitherto underexplored spiritual domain of operations. We'll need 5th generation leaders.
Risk-Benefit of the Military Covax with Dr. Chris Clagett
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34 year Navy veteran and preventive medicine physician Dr. Chris Clagett goes over some basic science of the immune system and preventive medicine to examine the overall risk-benefit for covid vaccines in the military population.

Conventional Leadership in Unconventional Context with Adam DeRito
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Wide ranging discussion with Adam DeRito trying to get to the bottom of how this Army E4 has come to demonstrate the capabilities, competence, and character typically expected of senior field grade officers extending leadership and influence from the tactical level on combat deployment to political and judicial reform in the halls of Congress. I became aware of Adam and his story watching his podcast with Dr. Sam Sigoloff (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-p_cPkFGCQ). Between Adam letting me in on the ruthless competence hierarchy of the oil and gas industry from an insiders perspective to discussing various aspects of geopolitics I felt privileged to have this conversation with such a fascinating individual. For more info on Adam check out his website https://www.adamderito.com/

Interview with Peter Wrangle
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A discussion with pseudonymous Peter Wrangle, 20 year military intelligence officer in the Army National Guard ranging from changing perceptions of the Army throughout GWOT to speculation about the future. Peter is a regular guest on the Future Conflict channel and can also be found on twitter discussing similar issues as well as threats and indicators as they emerge in the news cycle.

Discussion with CatGirl Kulak
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An in depth discussion on philosophy and politics with the engaging writer and thinker CatGirl Kulak who can be found on substack at https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/ and on twitter at https://twitter.com/FromKulak

Discussion with Brad Miller on Dystopia, Dialectic, and Totalitarianism
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Brad Miller returns to discuss the upcoming course he is teaching on ipak-edu.org entitled "Literature as Resistance: Recognizing, Unmasking and Countering Totalitarian Tendencies​"

Commander Robert A. Green Jr.
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Join us as we discuss leadership, how it intersects with character strengths, and the importance of moral values with Commander Green. I recently had the privilege of reviewing Commander Green's forthcoming book (to be release 4JUL23) entitled Defending the Constitution Behind Enemy Lines. See a short review of this outstanding book here:

Patrick Riley - Former Combat Medic and CEO of Reaper Financial
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Patrick Riley served over a decade as a combat medic in the U.S. Army. Join us as we discuss his own development as a leader leading him to resist C19 mandates while providing high quality training to personnel in his unit regarding the horrors of human trafficking. Since separating from service Patrick has been busy developing financial solutions to challenges imposed by an international monetary system plagued by chronic and intractable issues as the CEO of Reaper Financial. Follow Patrick on Twitter @RealReaperCEO

Lieutenant Colonel (fmr) Brad Miller
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Join as as we talk to Army veteran Brad Miller digging deep on the role morality and conscience plays in military leadership. Check out Brad's personal substack for more of his thoughts and insights at https://bradmiller10.substack.com/

COL (ret) Devon NuDelman
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Join us as we learn about Colonel NuDelman's journey from enlisted paratrooper to an O6 tasked with managing the logistics of global munitions. During the discussion we cover a wide array of topics, but notably cover cultural issues within the military and the corrosive impact of unofficial affirmative action practices in promotions boards.

Rodney Greenway
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On this episode we introduce former Sergeant First Class, Ranger Instructor, and co-host of 5th Generation Leadership Rodney Greenway. We discuss what inspired Rodney to join the U.S. Army and lessons he learned along the way. We discuss everything from his recovery from a devastating friendly fire incident to how he managed to act in accordance with his conscience throughout the military C19 vaccine mandate all while providing his Soldiers with the care and support characteristic of effective front line combat leaders.

Lieutenant Commander Mark Zito
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Navy LCDR Mark Zito joins us on another episode of 5GL. Mark is a USNA graduate and nuclear engineer who shares with us his professional journey and the challenges of leadership at sea, especially in the zero-defect nuclear community.

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